I recently found an interesting interview video on YouTube. It was an interview with a prominent AI engineer, and the message from it was the shocking statement that "AGI is still a decade away."
While many opinions suggest AGI will be realized in just a few years, his mention of such a long timespan—10 years—seems to have gathered global attention. This time, I'd like to share the key points that caught my attention from the video (1), which is over two hours long, and a subsequent tweet (2) he posted on X. you have a perfect AI tutor, maybe you can get extreme far, the genius today are barely scratching the surface of what a human mind can do,
Andrej Karpathy (left)— “We’re summoning ghosts, not building animals”
1. AGI is Still a Decade Away
The timeline for achieving AGI is debated among researchers, but the claim that it will take 10 years feels like a minority opinion, perhaps due to the flood of hype surrounding AI agents.
Of course, he has his reasons for asserting this. His tweet (2) stated: "There is still a lot of work (grunt work, integration work, sensors/actuators to the physical world, social work, safety & security work (jailbreaks, poisoning, etc)) to be done before we get to something that you’d rather hire than a human for any job in the world."
Indeed, AI agents in the world of text, like coding, have only just begun this year. The speculation that it will take a considerable amount of time to achieve an AGI that can also operate with high precision in the real world, including physical interaction, feels very convincing.
2. On LLM Agents
I believe this topic is especially important for those who use code assistants. His tweet included a critical comment on the current state: "I live in an intermediate world of collaborating with LLMs, where our pros/cons combine. The industry lives in a future where fully autonomous entities collaborate in parallel to write all the code and humans are useless."
I also feel that "those unfamiliar with AI technology might misunderstand, thinking they can easily build anything just by asking a code assistant." The performance of the latest generative AI like GPT-5 is incredible, but I believe there are still many cases where you can't just delegate 100% of a task to it. A collaborative relationship is still necessary, where the human decides the basic outline and structure, has the AI agent draft the details, and then the human reviews the results.
Once AGI is achieved, human intervention shouldn't be necessary at all, but it makes sense that it will take a considerable time to get there.
3. On Education in the AGI Era
Let's approach this final topic with optimism. In the interview, he spoke about the future of education, saying: "Teaching Assistants are currently human, but I think they can be replaced by AI in the future. Even in that case, the overall structure of the course would be devised by myself or the faculty, but perhaps in the future, AGI will even do that."
In fact, my company is also developing an e-learning program. While I am designing the overall structure, an AI avatar is scheduled to deliver the actual lectures. It's not possible to automate everything with current AI agents, but I think everyone can agree on the point that by humans and AI collaborating, we can create wonderful educational programs.
I'd like to close with his words: "If you have a perfect AI tutor, maybe you can get extremely far, the geniuses today are barely scratching the surface of what a human mind can do."
What did you think?
I want to note that he is bullish on the realization of AGI itself; it's his opinion on the timeline that differs from the consensus. Although the time until realization may vary, AGI will eventually appear before us.
What I've introduced here is just a tiny fraction of the more-than-two-hour interview. I highly recommend that you all watch this wonderful interview. I'm sure you will find some hints about the future of AGI.
Well, that's all for today. Stay tuned!
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1) Andrej Karpathy — “We’re summoning ghosts, not building animals” , Dwarkesh Podcast, 18 Oct 2025
2) X_post, Andrej Karpathy, 19 Oct 2025
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